Dave Brown was the co-formulator, along with Boyd Wathen, that brought Plexus their pink drink, Plexus Slim. This product was formerly called, LiquaVie, a product owned by Dave and Boyd's company, Nature 4 U.
Boyd Wathen has always stayed in the shadows, his involvement, if any, with Plexus Worldwide is unknown. Dave Brown has since parted ways with Plexus Worldwide aka Plexus Holdings. TruVision Health and Plexus are in the midst of legal battles. Dave Brown and Boyd Wathen are the owners of TruVision Health, so it will be interesting to see where their battle ends up.
These two weight loss supplement creators and co-founders have brought to TruVision a product called: TruWeight and Energy
Product ingredients on the No-No list, and weight loss ingredients to avoid list contained in the TruWeight and Energy are:
AMP:
AMP (4-Amino-2-Methylpentane Citrate) is a substance produced in Pouchung Tea. It acts as a metabolism “booster” and assists the body in metabolizing fatty tissue. When combined with other ingredients such a nominal amounts of caffeine, bitter orange and Phenylethylamine (PEA) it enhances the body’s ability to shed adipose tissue in a healthy manner without the side effects of jitters or cardiovascular complications. As the body metabolizes excess fat stores a subtle increase in energy is usually experienced.
Bitter Orange:
The combination of Bitter Orange peel and caffeine is a safe alternative to thermogenic products. The active ingredient in Bitter Orange is Synephrine, which is a primary amine similar to ephedrine and phenylethylamine (PEA) (Figure 1). However, in contrast, synephrine shows no negative side effects that eventually limited the sale of ephedra(Stohs et al., 2012). Bitter orange works by increasing the amount of glucose consumption by binding to adrenoreceptors, but at a much lower and healthier Kd than ephedrine (Stohs et al., 2011; Hong et al., 2012; Vinson et al., 2012).
Dendrobium:
Dendrobium is one of fifty of fundamental herbs in traditional medicine. It is found in certain species of the Orchid family. The complexity of the plant is largely attributed to its unique profile of alkaloids, such as: Dendrine, Nobiline, Nobilonine, etc (Dr. Duke Phytochemical Database). Extracts enriched in dendrobium alkaloids show many beneficial effects, including: increased focus, enhanced confidence, and increased energy. Unlike other stimulants these effects are not typically seen with an increase in blood pressure. Because of Dendrobium’s unique properties it is considered to be highly effective when coupled with synephrine (Bitter Orange) and nominal amounts of caffeine in helping individuals obtain their weight loss goals.
(descrpition taken from TruVision site)
These product ingredients should really be described as this:
AMP:
AMP citrate has never previously been sold for human consumption. There are no peer-reviewed studies assessing the pharmacology, toxicology, and safety of the compound.
It is a strong central nervous stimulant that increases energy and focus.
AMP citrate has been reported to cause:
rapid heartbeat
dizziness
headache
a crash after it has worn off
There are also reports of depression and anxiety with use.
If you are looking for a replacement for DMAA, AMP is a fair contender.
How about combining that ingredient with this one:
Bitter Orange:
Bitter Orange is similar to ephedra aka ma-huang. It can can squeeze your blood vessels, increase blood pressure and cause the heart to beat faster.
If that's not enough stimulant for you, they've added:
Dendrobium:
It might increase your chance of seizures, and it can slow breathing and heart rate and cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. It will give you another added kick as it too is very similar in characteristics of AMP and DMAA.
So what does this mean?
It means that these suppliers know that people are lazy and want that quick fix, they know that your body is going to be revved up, you will have a ton of energy from that. You might as well smoke crack or do meth. As Dave Brown once said, "smoke and mirrors"
In my opinion the side effects just aren't worth the risk.
There is no way to know what is actually in any dietary supplement, there are so many that contain adulterated ingredients, and the labels are required to state specifically what is in that bottle and in what amount if the manufacture claims they have a 'proprietary blend'. The only way to know for sure is to have the products analyzed in a lab or look for third-party certification.
Let's face it, by the time it goes to a lab or reaches anyone that hasn't been paid off to certify any product it may be too late for some users.
Is TruVision Health a scam?
If that's not enough stimulant for you, they've added:
Dendrobium:
It might increase your chance of seizures, and it can slow breathing and heart rate and cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. It will give you another added kick as it too is very similar in characteristics of AMP and DMAA.
So what does this mean?
It means that these suppliers know that people are lazy and want that quick fix, they know that your body is going to be revved up, you will have a ton of energy from that. You might as well smoke crack or do meth. As Dave Brown once said, "smoke and mirrors"
In my opinion the side effects just aren't worth the risk.
There is no way to know what is actually in any dietary supplement, there are so many that contain adulterated ingredients, and the labels are required to state specifically what is in that bottle and in what amount if the manufacture claims they have a 'proprietary blend'. The only way to know for sure is to have the products analyzed in a lab or look for third-party certification.
Let's face it, by the time it goes to a lab or reaches anyone that hasn't been paid off to certify any product it may be too late for some users.
Is TruVision Health a scam?
bitter orange and Phenylethylamine (PEA) it enhances the body’s ability to shed adipose tissue in a healthy manner without the side effects of jitters or cardiovascular complications. As the body metabolizes excess fat stores a subtle increase in energy is usually experienced. thewheelworks.org
ReplyDeleteI really wish I could get my hands on the original truvision the generation 2 has not worked for me .... I miss truvision before they tweaked the ingredients.
DeleteI really wish I could get my hands on the original truvision the generation 2 has not worked for me .... I miss truvision before they tweaked the ingredients.
DeleteI'm actually selling a set of original formula on eBay right now if you're interested!
DeleteI'm actually selling a set of original formula on eBay right now if you're interested!
DeleteHello I'm selling the original one at a good price also it's the 30 day supply. I'm on Mercari. User name carley truelove
DeleteI would like to order the original truvision if anyone has any left.
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DeleteI'm interested in the original truvision.
DeleteMakes sense. I am a 52yo woman who started taking TruV (blue/green) pills and after trying them for 7 days and having no issues, I went with the month supply. FOUR DAYS into the month supply (consistently taking the product), I developed heart palpitations, shortness of breath, chest pain and felt like I just couldn't get enough oxygen into my body (belching, yawning, deep, heavy sighs). I went to my Dr. who said to "stop taking this immediately". So I did. I've had an EKG, a GI Cocktail - and I still have the symptoms, just not as bad. I took the ingredient list to my Dr., but now that I'm researching a little further, I stumble across THIS article and it puts it all into perspective for me. I'm sure there are people who will (and do) have absolutely NO problem taking this stuff .. unfortunately, I am not one of them .. and that's too bad. I really liked how I felt (before this), and I'd lost about 5 lbs and 8 inches off my body. I have a food addiction and I'm not naive or young .. I know diet and exercise is the best route to take to lose weight in a healthy manner .. unfortunately, for someone addicted to food, that doesn't mean sh*t. (no offense) TruV helped me NOT think of food. It helped me NOT feel like I HAD TO be eating all the time. It worked. Briefly, but it worked. Of course, I won't be taking it anymore, but I wish those who have no trouble taking it the best of luck in your weight loss journey.
ReplyDeleteHang on Michelle, TruVision is coming out with a next Gen of Weight and Energy that is taking out the ingredients that are causing these side effects. You can take the new ingredient list to your Doc, and maybe he'll approve it.
DeleteI had my first anxiety attack tonight. Not cool
DeleteI must say, after i took my first full day on saturday, it is now wed. Its my birthday, i asked yesterday if i can drink wine. I was told yes. I skiped yesterdays dose in the afternoon. Drank and hadca fabulous time. This morning i took my dose ,nothing, took my second at 5, nothing.. then i showered. And had the most severe attack i have never experienced in my life.. called 911. I freaked out. I didnt make 911. Sister called and came over, told me to breathe.. i love this product but im scared. Never had a panick/anxiety attack in my life .
DeleteI am so sorry to hear that.
DeleteFor those who have a food addiction, it's not your fault. Read the book by Lee Causey called "Get Suddenly Slim" as it explains why people gain weight. To fight food cravings, I use Slim Balmoral from http://behealthyagain.firstfitness.com and it has helped me a lot of things.
DeleteI have been taking them for over a year now and LOVE them,, I have had no adverse side affects, I lost the weight I needed to loose and cfontinue to stay on it for the energy,, no elevated bp or heart rate... this is probably written by a disgruntled Plexus ambassador, that is mad they lost Dave Brown
ReplyDeleteshe was probably drinking coffee with it
DeleteI don't recall the instructions saying not to drink coffee while taking TruV.
DeleteI don't recall the instructions saying not to drink coffee while taking TruV.
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ReplyDeleteJust started taking this product and people most people really leaving good feedback and some comments scary me I'm confused about this
ReplyDeleteThe new drug ... "1,3-dimethylamylamine (1,3-DMAA) or simply dimethylamylamine (DMAA), is an indirect sympathomimetic drug invented and developed by Eli Lilly and Company and marketed as an inhaled nasal decongestant from 1944 until it was voluntarily withdrawn from the market in 1983." You can look this up yourself, just google 1,3-dimethylamylamine on Wikipedia.
ReplyDeleteIf you are honest in wanting to know if AMP Citrate is safe, check out the FDA's (the F-D-A's) warning at http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidkroll/2015/05/06/fda-warns-14-sports-supplement-companies-of-illegal-dmba-amp-citrate/
ReplyDeleteI've been taking it for 6 months and have lost 32 lbs. I really don't have any negative side effects. The crash in the evening quit happening once I was on it for a couple of weeks. I don't crave sweets and carbs like I did. I have been very happy with the results. I hope the gen2 works as well.
ReplyDeleteI just finished my first trial week of Truvision. I gained 5.5 pounds!!! I'm eating much less drinking lots of water. I can't find anything on gaining. I'm hoping it's my body adjusting and it will come right off.
ReplyDeleteI gained six pounds off the trial pack and my appetite was increased. I ordered the gen2 month and we'll see how it goes.
DeleteMy guess is you thinkyour eating less but not
DeleteMy guess is you thinkyour eating less but not
DeleteI did the trial pack and lost 6 lbs. I will be ordering the monthly supply
DeleteSo is only the Gen 2 being sold now?
ReplyDeleteWeight-loss supplements can be addicting depending on what chemicals they contain. Some supplements contain caffeine or amphetamine derivatives, which can be very addicting. Some people can also become addicted to the psychological effects of the pills.
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ReplyDeleteOld formula, too much caffeine. Gen2, strange dreams. Guess I'm meant to do the work myself. Lol
ReplyDeleteI've been using TruVision since September and I've lost 22 pounds, I did have a headache when I started the Gen2 but was told its where my body was detoxing and I haven't had one after that. I think it's amazing! I liked it so well I started selling it!!!
ReplyDeleteCan anyone give me feedback that have taken both the original and Gen2? I know sometimes when products are redesigned they are never as good or effective as the original. Is Gen2 just as effective as the original even though some of the items have been taken out. (AMP)
ReplyDeleteThe only thing taken out was the bitter orange, which caused palpitations in some people .. like me. I have not had those with Gen2. It works great!
DeleteThe only thing taken out was the bitter orange, which caused palpitations in some people .. like me. I have not had those with Gen2. It works great!
DeleteI tried tru for over a month. Yes it gave me crazy awesome energy and also made me CRAVE sweets like never before! I stuck to a 1200-1500 calorie diet AND walked over 5 miles daily and guess what.... GAINED 7 freaking lbs! I kept telling myself that my body was "adjusting" to the product but the scale kept creeping up. I stopped taking them and shed those 7 lbs in about a week keeping the same eating and exercise habits. I give this product a big thumbs DOWN! I'm too afraid to even give them a second go around even though I shelled out $125 to become and associate and my product. I'm sorry, I just can't endorse something that does not work for me. I feel like I'm scamming people. Not for me.
ReplyDeleteI tried tru for over a month. Yes it gave me crazy awesome energy and also made me CRAVE sweets like never before! I stuck to a 1200-1500 calorie diet AND walked over 5 miles daily and guess what.... GAINED 7 freaking lbs! I kept telling myself that my body was "adjusting" to the product but the scale kept creeping up. I stopped taking them and shed those 7 lbs in about a week keeping the same eating and exercise habits. I give this product a big thumbs DOWN! I'm too afraid to even give them a second go around even though I shelled out $125 to become and associate and my product. I'm sorry, I just can't endorse something that does not work for me. I feel like I'm scamming people. Not for me.
ReplyDeleteI have lost 100 lbs since June 17th 2015 I have been on both generation 1 and generation 2. I love it. I have no side effects and every time I get on a scale I have lost more. I have another 100 lbs to go I love truvision health.
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I was removed from the Tru vision site today as a member because I posted a negative comment (gaining not losing) and it was getting a lot of attention. Apparently negative results are not welcome on the page. I'm angry and disgusted. And I took both gen1 and gen2 and even spent an extra $30 a month when it wasn't working. After 3 months and a lot of money, I now weigh 10 lbs more than when I started and I dieted heavy and exercised. My opinion....total crap!!
ReplyDeleteGen 2 doesn't work for me at all. I am soooo hungry
ReplyDeleteGen 2 doesn't work for me at all. I am soooo hungry
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ReplyDeleteAny one have gen1 I can buy?
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DeleteI have a few sample packs
DeleteYes I have Gen 1 for sale. I have 7 sample packs and a whole 30 day supply of it.
DeleteDoes anyone have any gen1 that I can buy?
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DeleteAny one have gen1 I can buy?
ReplyDeleteI have Sample packs and a 30 day supply of the Gen 1.
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DeleteI have Truvision products (the new Trucontrol combo) is the old gen 1. If anyone wants to order email me at all4hisname@yahoo.com
DeleteI have a few sample packs
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DeleteIm soo confused.. im in South Africa and want to try it but 124$ is a lot of ZAR. This is giving me mixed thoughts
ReplyDeleteHas anyone tried Plexus? It doesn't cause any of these issues.
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ReplyDeleteI have tried plexus and it caused me to gain 20lbs. Which I am glad I switched to TruVision I lost 5 lbs. in just 3 days I am still on my sample pack so can't wait to see how much I lose in 7.5 days all together :)
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ReplyDeleteI have been on trucontrol and energy for 9 days and have GAINED almost a pound. I exercise everyday and am on a healthy diet. Not sure on what is going on but am starting to get upset over the whole ordeal. I changed my order to Truweight for my next month to see if there is a change. I also have no increased energy. I also spent a lot of money,($160) for my first month. I am a 5'7, 227 pound woman so I know I have weight that needs to come off. What is going on??
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